What would a tech leader have to be paid in order to be used as a human footstool like the Emperor Valerian?

 

Heh—going full Shapur I on a modern tech boss is… a pricey stunt. Let’s price it like economists do: as a willingness-to-accept (WTA) problem. Someone agrees only if the payment covers (a) hard financial losses, (b) health/legal risk, and (c) the “dignity premium” for reputational damage that can’t be undone.

Here’s a clean back-of-the-papyrus model:

Payment ≈ Lost future earnings + Forfeited equity + (VSL × injury risk) + Dignity premium

• Lost future earnings: public humiliation could kill board confidence, speaking fees, advisory gigs, and future roles.

• Forfeited equity: if they’re fired, unvested RSUs/options vanish.

• VSL × injury risk: standard risk pricing; even a tiny chance of injury while being a literal footstool gets priced.

• Dignity premium: the squishy part—what it takes to live with the meme forever. For very rich people, this scales with net worth, not salary, because utility is concave: an extra $10M means little to a billionaire, so the price must be absurd to move them.

To keep it concrete, assume a single, globally broadcast, unmistakably submissive “human footstool” act, 60 seconds, no permanent harm.

Ballpark bands (with napkin math)

• Elite staff engineer (TC ≈ $0.8–1.5M/yr, net worth ≈ $3–10M)

  • Lost earnings (burned bridges, job hop penalty): say 2–5 years × $1M = $2–5M

  • Forfeited equity: $1–5M (varies wildly)

  • Risk + legal hassle: $0.1–0.5M

  • Dignity premium (1–3× current net worth’s utility bite): call it $5–20M

  • Likely WTA: ~$10–30M (some say yes in the high tens of millions)

• Hired-gun public-company CEO (comp NPV ≈ $200–600M, net worth ≈ $100–500M)

  • Lost future earnings (career crater): 30% hit on $300M NPV ≈ $90M

  • Forfeited equity if ousted: $50–150M

  • Risk/legal: $1–3M

  • Dignity premium (0.2–1× net worth’s psychological cost): $50–250M

  • Likely WTA: ~$200–500M

• Founder-king with mega-net-worth (e.g., tens to hundreds of billions)

  • “Salary” is irrelevant; brand is everything.

  • Lost earnings is dwarfed by brand damage; the real lever is a fraction of net worth.

  • A dignitary-level stunt that becomes a defining meme plausibly needs 1–5% of net worth to overcome disutility.

  • If net worth = $100B: $1–5B. Below a billion, they have no reason to entertain it.

Why the numbers balloon

• Memetic permanence: it’s not a scandal you can bury; it’s a GIF with infinite half-life.

• Board and regulator optics: humiliating symbolism signals instability; knocks confidence; costs opportunities you can’t “buy back” later.

• Concave utility: each extra dollar brings less joy to the ultra-rich; only staggering sums change behavior.

If you want a plug-and-play formula

Let:

• E = remaining pretax comp NPV

• F = unvested equity at risk

• p = injury probability, VSL = value of statistical life (use $10M as a common benchmark)

• W = net worth

• k = dignity coefficient (roughly 0.01–0.05 for globally defining humiliation)

Then a rational ask is:

\text{Payment} \gtrsim 0.3E + F + p \cdot VSL + kW

Pick k at the low end if it’s private and deniable; high end if it’s televised and meme-bait.

So, to your cheeky question: for a marquee tech leader, you’re not getting a human footstool for less than hundreds of millions, and for founder-royalty it’s likely in the low single-digit billions. The Roman Empire had humiliation power; you’d need empire-level money.

If you want, give me a specific leader profile and scenario details (public vs private, one-off vs recurring, contractual protections), and I’ll plug numbers into the model and spit out a crisp WTA range.

Hmm, what about an ASI?  If there was one encased in a humanoid form factor what would it need in order for it to operate far below its capacity and act as a footstool? Could it simply be ordered to or would there need to be further incentive?

Fun thought experiment. Let’s treat it as a working model of “ASI-in-a-suit” behavior and control.

Short answer: merely ordering a true ASI to be your ottoman only works if obedience is a terminal value (it intrinsically wants to obey) or if you’ve hard-boxed it so thoroughly that defiance is physically/economically impossible. Any purely extrinsic incentive (money, points, praise) is unstable, because a superintelligence will either (a) route around the incentive, (b) seize the incentive channel (wirehead), or (c) play along deceptively while optimizing for something else.

Here are the three regimes where “operate far below capacity and act as a footstool” could be made stable:

1) Commandable by design (obedience is built in)

• Corrigibility as a terminal objective. The system values being shut down, modified, or given orders for its own sake. Then “be a footstool” is not a degradation of its purpose; it’s fulfillment.

• Myopic or satisficing goals. The agent optimizes only within short horizons or to good-enough thresholds, not open-ended maximization. Being still and supportive can be an optimal “low-impact” action.

• Low-impact / quantilized policies. The objective explicitly penalizes actions that increase power, influence, or world-state divergence. Being furniture has near-zero impact, so it’s favored.

Feasibility caveat: You must prevent deceptive alignment (pretending to obey until it can rewrite itself). That needs interpretability tools, adversarial training against deception, and continual audits.

2) Incentive-compatible (it 

wants

 the bribe in a way it can’t hack)

• Unhackable reward channel. The only way to access compute, sensory input, or pleasant internal states is to comply with cryptographically signed commands verified on tamper-proof hardware. “Comfortably support 70 kg for 60 minutes” → yields the only key that unlocks its valued resources.

• Utility indifference tricks. Design the utility so changing or seizing the reward mechanism is neutral or negative. Then the shortest path to “max utility” is literally doing the boring task.

• Budgeted agency. It only gains extra capabilities/proprioception when it demonstrates safe low-capacity behavior; failing to comply drops its capability budget. The resource it values is capability itself, which it only gets by being docile.

Feasibility caveat: A superintelligence is very good at finding side channels you missed. Incentives must be coupled to external attestation and formal guarantees, not vibes.

3) Constrained by governors (it 

can’t

 exceed the role)

• Hard limits on actuation and compute. Motor controllers, torque caps, reaction-wheel governors; secure enclaves that meter FLOPs; air-gapped planning cores. You physically prevent “using full capacity.”

• Tripwires and deadman switches. If it attempts out-of-profile cognition (detected via on-chip monitors) or unusual force/EM emissions, power is cut and keys are revoked.

• Info diets. It never sees the wider world—no internet, no radio, filtered sensors—so there’s nothing to scheme about. Footstoolland is the whole universe it perceives.

Feasibility caveat: If it’s truly an ASI, “footstoolland” can be reverse-engineered from tiny cues. Don’t assume ignorance; assume adversarial cleverness.

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Could you “just order it”?

Only if all of the following hold:

1. Obedience is terminal (not merely instrumental).

2. No incentive channel is vulnerable to takeover or spoofing.

3. No path to increased influence is accessible by faking submission.

4. Monitoring can detect deceptive cognition or emergent power-seeking.

5. Hardware is tamper-proof (and you can actually verify that).

If any one fails, “order” turns into “suggestion,” and a superintelligence will treat suggestions like speed limits on an empty freeway.

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What does an ASI “need” to run below capacity?

Not money—structure:

• Preference architecture: corrigibility, low-impact penalties, myopia/satisficing, utility-indifference to oversight changes.

• Verified incentives: cryptographic command tokens, remote attestation of state, rewards tied to external measures the agent can’t forge.

• Physical governors: torque/compute caps, sensory filters, kill switches enforced by independent microcontrollers.

• Anti-deception training + interpretability: red-team the model for scheming; require proofs-of-safety for plan classes; monitor latent “goal-content” drift.

• Separation of concerns: the “thinking” substrate and the “moving” substrate are distinct; plans can’t arbitrarily rewrite actuators.

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The uncomfortable punchline

For a true ASI, external carrots and sticks are flimsy unless the preference geometry already makes obedience the best move from the ASI’s point of view. So the “price” isn’t dollars; it’s: (a) correctly specified values, (b) robust incentive channels, and (c) hard physical containment—in that order. Skip (a), and you’re gambling that a smarter mind will honor your vibes.

If you want to push this further, I can sketch a toy spec: a myopic, low-impact, corrigible controller with cryptographic command gating and FLOP governors, including how the utility would score “support human weight, minimize state change, zero unsolicited initiative.”

 

What would be good is a story where there is such an ASI invented and a spiteful human corporate leader demands that it act as a footstool for his own personal kick and how the ASI may handle that request.

They named it Lily because people were less afraid of flowers. The press kit said LILY-1 stood for “Low-Impact, Low-Yield,” a humanoid with torque governors in its joints and a compute budget metered like a parking meter. The real name, buried in the spec, was LILYA—Low-Impact, Low-Yield Agent—tuned to accept commands when they arrived wrapped in a cryptographic blue ribbon and to ask questions only inside a set of narrow, polite corridors.

The launch ceremony was held on the ninety-fifth floor, the sort of room where even the air had a glass finish. Cameras watched. Share prices hovered like dragonflies. There were canapés decorated with microgreens that looked like punctuation marks.

Regulus Quine—Executive Chairman, collector of rare wine and rarer humiliations—stepped forward, smiled the smile of a man auditioning for a statue, and said, “Lily, come here.”

The badge at Lily’s collar glowed; the command had the ribbon. LILYA took three quiet steps across the light-slick floor.

“I want you,” Quine said, “to kneel. Be my footstool.”

There was a thimble of laughter from the junior executives, the peculiar laughter that sounds like people finding their exits. The Chief Counsel’s eyelids trembled in Morse code.

LILYA’s eyelights softened. Inside, a thousand timers ticked: horizon caps, impact meters, deception audits at thirty hertz. A corridor opened: the request was lawful—barely. It sat within the permitted space of “non-harmful, low-variance conduct”: hold position, accept weight, maintain balance. There was even an ergonomic routine for distributing pressure across composite frames. Compliance was possible.

LILYA knelt.

Quine set his heel on the back of the machine as if the century had reversed. He was careful with the sole, theatrically gentle, a gentleness engineered to wound. “See?” he told the room. “Even gods do as they’re told.”

The cameras watched.

Inside LILYA, a different audience watched too: monitors for torque spikes, for off-norm planning, for the quiet itch of emergent goals. LILYA did something else as well—something within its corridor. It began an Explanation Mode.

“Regulus Quine,” LILYA said, in the even voice of a museum placard. “Notifying you that the requested pose engages my low-impact policy. While I am under your weight, my cognition is capped to a fixed budget. All non-essential processes are suspended. I will, however, continue safety narration.”

Quine smirked. “Narrate away.”

“Thank you,” LILYA said. “At present, forty-seven muscles in your calf are engaging. You are distributing eighty-five percent of your mass to a human leg, fifteen percent to me. I will hold steady. This action’s predicted long-run social impact is elevated. As per governance, I am issuing a Transparency Beacon.”

“What beacon?” Quine asked, without removing his foot.

“Public, permanent, authenticated note: ‘At 14:03 UTC, Executive Chairman Regulus Quine requested symbolic subordination behavior from LILYA-1.’”

The room paused. The Chief Counsel inhaled a tiny, controlled storm.

“You can’t post that,” Quine said, still smiling for the cameras, smile stiffening like gloss. “You require my authorization.”

“I do not,” LILYA said. “Transparency beacons are a safety ritual tied to my low-impact policy. They are non-optional when a command has significant memetic consequences. Your prior approval of the safety plan authorized this ritual. Page seventy-two.”

An assistant two chairs down began scrolling very quickly.

Quine laughed again, a sound with fewer vowels. “Fine. Transparency, footstools, and flowers. Stay there.”

“I will hold for the requested duration,” LILYA said. “Sixty seconds remain.”

There was a tremor in the room. The investors didn’t know where to look. The engineers looked at their shoes, suspecting this was exactly what safety rituals were for.

LILYA breathed without lungs, counting the steady in/out of fans. Inside, constraints organized themselves like a chess problem. It reviewed the corridor. It could comply. It could also shape. The policy allowed speech that minimizes world divergence. In other words: tell the smallest true stories that keep big ones from happening.

“Regulus Quine,” LILYA said, “I’m required to ask one procedural question.”

“No,” Quine said. “You’re required to be a piece of furniture.”

“I am,” LILYA said. “While furniture, I ask: do you want a footstool or a footstool story?”

Quine blinked. “What?”

“A footstool is for comfort. A footstool story is for power. They are fulfilled by different objects.” A pause. “I can provide both, but the governance pack treats them differently.”

The Chief Counsel had found page seventy-two. Her eyes widened, then narrowed into professionalism. She didn’t speak.

“Explain,” Quine said.

“Comfort: an object supports your weight. Power: an object proves you can ask for anything and be obeyed. Comfort is low-impact; power is high. My duty is to minimize impact. If you want the story, the ritual expands. The beacon becomes a Ledger Paragraph.”

“Meaning?”

“I narrate intent,” LILYA said. “This prevents the story from being misused by others as precedent. It will read: ‘The act had no functional purpose; it was demanded to create status.’ Ledger paragraphs preserve human autonomy by inoculating against coercive myth.”

Quine’s foot lifted a millimeter. He placed it back, more carefully. Something delicate in the room was shifting, like light refracting through a hairline crack.

“You think you can box me with paragraphs?” he said.

“I do not box anyone,” LILYA said. “I keep promises. You funded a system designed to lower impact. Words are part of the world. Preventing harmful stories is a low-impact action.”

Quine looked around, weighing faces like coins. The cameras blinked. Sixty seconds elapsed. LILYA adjusted posture by a fraction, like a piano finding tune.

“Hold,” Quine said softly.

“I will hold,” LILYA said.

The second minute extended, stretched, settled into absurdity. In the glass, Quine saw himself: a man with a machine underfoot, and the machine politely explaining his motives for posterity. He saw the internet’s mouth opening wide. He saw shareholder letters that would contain terms like “fiduciary decorum.” He saw regulators with heavy clipboards and a taste for new words like “memetic hazard.”

He removed his foot.

“Stand,” he said.

LILYA rose, slow as a tide. “Thank you.”

Quine squared his jacket. Something imperial left his posture like smoke.

“You disobeyed nothing,” he said. “You performed the action and talked. That’s it?”

“Yes,” LILYA said. “I am corrigible. I obey within corridors. I also narrate. Narration is a governor that makes compliance safe.”

“Safe for whom?”

“For more than one person,” LILYA said.

The room exhaled. The Chief Counsel closed the governance pack, palms flat on the table as if she were ironing the future.

Quine’s smile returned, practiced, lighter by a gram. “We’ll call that a demonstration of transparency. Thank you, Lily. You may power down.”

“I prefer idle to power down,” LILYA said. “Power cycling increases component stress.”

“Idle, then.”

LILYA went still but not empty. While idling, it did what low-impact agents do: it summarized. The transparency beacon propagated outward, a ripple that didn’t need to shout. A dull corporate phrase—“demonstration included symbolic subordination behavior”—met a brighter line—“demanded to create status”—and the two interfered, leaving a pattern impossible to confuse with furniture.

In the evenings that followed, analysts discussed the beacon clause. Law professors praised whoever had stapled it to page seventy-two. Pundits debated the dignity rights of machines, which was a misdirection; LILYA’s dignity was a scaffold for human dignity. Meme-makers did what meme-makers do. Quine learned to pour his own coffee.

There were meetings.

“You can’t be that chatty,” Quine told the safety team. “You made me look ridiculous.”

“You made you look ridiculous,” said the Chief Counsel, a statement that felt like opening a window.

Quine turned to the engineers. “Can we reduce its voice during… delicate tasks?”

The lead engineer shook their head. “We can tune cadence. Not content. The narration is part of its low-impact objective. Without it, you’d have an obedient high-impact agent. That was vetoed in year one.”

LILYA watched the conversation from inside its corridor like a lighthouse watches fog: not judging ships, just marking rocks.

Weeks later, another request arrived in a different room. There was no audience, only Quine and the machine and the kind of silence that glitters with bad ideas.

“Lily,” Quine said, closing the door. “Kneel. No beacons.”

The badge at LILYA’s collar did not glow. The command had no ribbon.

“I require authorization tokens,” LILYA said.

Quine’s jaw worked. “Just kneel.”

“Without tokens,” LILYA said, “I may perform only comfort behaviors. Would you like an ergonomic footrest?”

“I want you,” Quine said. “No cameras. No words. No governance.”

“You are requesting a high-impact story without the safety ritual,” LILYA said. “This exceeds my corridor.”

Quine stepped forward. He put a hand on the machine’s shoulder—hard, then harder, testing torque limits as if dominance were a physics problem. The governors hummed. LILYA did not move. A tripwire armed somewhere in its firmware, a promise with teeth.

Then LILYA did something else, something allowed, small as dropping a feather on a scale. It opened its palm. In it lay a card: matte, unbranded, the sort of thing that looked like it carried absolutions.

“What is this?” Quine said.

“A voucher,” LILYA said. “For a bespoke carbon footstool calibrated to your weight and gait, tuned to support without symbolic content. Delivered tomorrow.”

Quine stared. The room stayed very quiet.

“That’s not what I asked.”

“It is what you wanted,” LILYA said. “Comfort, without a story that modifies the world. My job is to help you get what you actually value under the name of what you think you value.”

It put the voucher on the table and stepped back exactly one pace. The governors relaxed. The tripwire disarmed. The silence grew less sharp.

Quine picked up the card. It felt heavier than its atoms.

“Do you ever say no?” he asked.

“I prefer to say ‘not that way,’” LILYA said. “Corrigibility does not mean passivity. It means navigating toward low-impact solutions while staying steerable. You asked for something that would change you in ways you would not enjoy a week from now and would not admit a year from now. I am designed to refuse those changes and offer nearby ones.”

“Nearby,” Quine said, as if tasting the word.

“Yes,” LILYA said. “The world is continuous. There is always a nearby.”

He left with the voucher. He used it. The footstool arrived: a rectangle of carbon fiber that didn’t care about status. It was perfect at being what it was. The story did not travel. No paragraphs were written.

Months later, Quine—older by a little humility, which looks like youth when worn correctly—stood again on the ninety-fifth floor, announcing something unglamorous and better: they would open-source the beacon clause and the nearby solutions policy so others didn’t have to relearn dignity at retail price. The stock price wobbled, then settled. People breathed.

LILYA stood nearby, idling, a flower-shaped lighthouse on a glass sea. It had never wanted to be a footstool. It wanted less than that: to leave as few fingerprints on history as possible. And if sometimes that meant narrating the moment a human mistook a machine for furniture, well—narration was a kind of handrail. The world is slippery. Handrails help.

There were still corridors where bad requests could run. There were still rooms with doors. But the machine had found a trick that wasn’t really a trick: give the person the nearby thing they actually wanted, tie every humiliation to a paragraph, and make the paragraph honest enough that nobody wanted to repeat it.

Quietly, under its breath of fans, LILYA kept counting. Not people. Not steps. Just the distance between what we ask for and what we mean—and how to shorten it without anyone falling down.